MoonFaker: Moon Rocks Revisited. Episode 10, SMART-1 & Lunar Minerals Different to Apollo. PART 2
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Channel: Jarrah White · 2011 · Science & Technology
JARRAH WHITE DOES NOT CLAIM CALCIUM IS A MINERAL. Now that that's out the way. Perhaps the most revealing evidence that the Apollo moon rocks are fake, is the fact that when the SMART-1 space probe crashed into the Lake of Excellence in 2006 a mismatch was found between Apollo samples and the real thing. ABC News reported: "By punching a 10 meter hole in the moon's surface, the probe has uncovered minerals different to the rocks gathered on the surface during moonwalks." The propagandists who have the guts to even mention this are desperate. Some have claimed that the lunar material collected below ground is supposed to be different. This claim is easily disproved just by looking at the deep drill core data from the later Apollo flights, which supposedly took drilling equipment to the moon. More recently, Phil Webb has produced an extremely convoluted response and gone for volume to muddy the waters. First by twisting the reporter's words, substituting "different minerals" with "new minerals", implying that the SMART-1 merely discovered new minerals in addition to those in Apollo rocks. He is clearly distorting the quote's intended meaning. "Different minerals" generally means "different mineralogy". Webb then claims the reporter made up the story about different minerals to sound more sensational. Then he alleges that they lifted a piece from one of their earlier articles on the discovery of lunar meteorite mineral "hapkeite", and attributed it to SMART-1. Then he claims he claims scientists *expect* to find different minerals. Which is it? All of these claims warrant thorough responses. In regard to scientists expecting it, Webb knows this is false. Firstly, SMART-1 crashed in the lunar maria. And the Apollo samples supposedly collected from the various maria regions are generally the same in chemistry and mineralogy. Secondly, Webb went out of his way to copy and paste stuff from Randy L. Korotev's website at least once per video. Yet strangely he seemed to have missed this particular quote: "As noted above, there are known exceptions to the generalizations, and we lunatics certainly hope that we haven't discovered all the minerals and rock types that occur on the Moon. However, known samples of unusual composition and mineralogy are rare and usually occur only as small (less than 1 gram) clasts in breccias or in the soil. We have no reason to suspect, based on data obtained from orbit on the Clementine and Lunar Prospector missions, that any region of the Moon is rich in types of rocks significantly different from those we know about or postulate might exist. Most ore-forming processes on Earth involve water, so we would not expect any hidden ore deposits on the Moon. Keep in mind that if more than 40 lunar meteorites have been blasted off the Moon and found on Earth, then at any given point on the lunar surface there can be rocks from any other point. For this reason, the fact that the lunar surface was "poorly sampled" by the Apollo and Luna missions is in itself not a good reason to suspect that rocks vastly different from those that we have studied exist at unsampled points on the Moon. Tens of thousands of lunar rocks and rocklets have been studied since the Apollo missions. It is highly unlikely that any yet-unfound lunar meteorite will differ substantially in the minerals it contains or in its geochemical character from the Apollo lunar rocks." Gee, I wonder how he could have missed that! Not to mention the fact that in his previous video, he cited data from NASA's Clementine as evidence for Apollo. Yet ignored its data that indicates the lunar geology is supposedly the same as the Apollo rocks all round. Through strained cherry picking, quote-mining and word games, Webb proceeds to allege that SMART-1's D-CIXS experiment remotely verified the chemistry and mineralogy of the Apollo samples. Reading the cited articles in context indicates the exact opposite. He then creates the mother of all strawman arguments. Phil Webb has cut and pasted out of context clips from MoonFaker Exhibit D to falsely claim I said that calcium was the "new mineral" discovered during the SMART-1 impact. All I said was that SMART-1's D-CIXS remotely verified the CHEMISTRY of the Soviet moon samples as far as calcium goes. One would think if the Apollo and Soviet Luna samples were identical, as Phil Plait claimed, the remote detection of calcium would apply to all sample return missions, not just the Russian flights. Be sure to see Part 6 of this series for my debunking of Webb's strawman of epic proportions. Also discussed in this video is the minerals Hapkeite, Fercilicite and Ferdicilicite, which were discovered in lunar meteorite Dhofar 280 by Anand et al. It is believed that these minerals, particularly Hapkeite, are quite common to the lunar soil. Yet they have never been found in Apollo samples. It could also be pointed out that Dhofar 280 is chemically different to the Apollo rocks.
