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Government Defeats the Grieve 2 Amendment!

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Channel: Jeff Taylor · 2018 · News & Politics

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The House of Commons has voted down Dominic Grieve's amendment to the EU Withdrawal Bill for a so-called 'meaningful vote'.

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The government has won the final crunch vote on the EU Withdrawal Bill by 319 to 303, a margin of 16 votes.

The Bill will have to once again go back to the House of Lords where it now is expected to be passed.

This means that, the vote as laid out in the bill that parliament has regarding the deal the government gets with the EU, will be in neutral terms and not in the meaningful way that many Remainers were hoping for. If expressed in neutral terms that motion cannot be amended later.

However, to get this through, the Brexit Secretary, David Davis, had to tell MPs that an official ministerial statement would be made tomorrow stating that the Speaker, John Bercow could, under standing orders, have the final say on deciding whether the motion was truly set out in neutral terms or could actually still be amended.

This appears to have swayed enough of the Tory Brexit rebels back onside, including it has to be said Dominic Grieve himself, who said that the sovereignty of parliament had been acknowledged.

Looks like the fears of an imminent snap general election will be calmed for now. But we still have several more Brexit related bills that will have to go through this same process and I don't think the Remainers will be giving up quite yet.

On security, the boss of GCHQ Jeremy Fleming, in an unusual move has said that the EU would be the ones to suffer at the hands of foreign powers should it choose to limit security co-operation with the UK after Brexit, reports the Daily Mail.

He pointed out that GCHQ had helped EU countries to foil cyberattacks and said that a pooling of resource, expertise and, critically, data were needed in order to investigate and disrupt our adversaries.

I have to say there is nothing stopping us co-operating, but for me the word 'pooling' means remaining within a single intelligence unit, which is not something I would want to see. After all, remember that the whole argument for the EU was this concept of 'pooling' sovereignty and we all know that meant giving up sovereignty and independence.

Now to Dr Phillip Lee. Do you remember Dr Phillip Lee? He is the Tory MP for Leave voting Bracknell and former junior justice minister that resigned his ministerial post last week over the government's handling of Brexit.

Today he gave an interview on the BBC Radio 4 Today Programme where he said that if parliament was given the so-called 'meaningful vote' it could end up delaying or suspending the Lisbon Treaty Article 50 process.

He said that what we needed most was time and when pressed said that he is confident that there is an appetite within the EU to delay or suspend Article 50 based on his own private soundings taken not within Brussels but around the capitals of the EU.

So, it seems that, as a minister of the crown, this MP was travelling the length and breadth of the EU looking for support to delay or suspend the Article 50 process. Now, call me old-fashioned, but does that not directly undermine the position of Her Majesty's government? Why has this man not had the Tory whip withdrawn? After all he's of no use to government or party policy anymore is he?

And many of his furious residents agree that he should go, with the Bracknell News reporting one resident as saying that the MP believes he is above ordinary people and treats them as peasants. Plus he knew Bracknell wanted Brexit but did not support the people or the Prime Minister.

But this does show the direction that those that oppose government policy truly want to go.

Now for a few non-Brexit statistics that might interest you.

According to the ONS, the average income of the top fifth of households is £88,800 per annum, whereas the average income of the poorest fifth was 12 times lower at £7,400 a year.

Sources:

https://twitter.com/NickyMorgan01/status/1009424167672958986

https://youtu.be/nqpsDT1-ds0

http://www.bracknellnews.co.uk/news/16302304.defiant-phillip-lee-states-he-wont-quit-as-bracknell-mp-over-brexit-row/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5863431/GCHQ-boss-wades-Brexit-row-warning-need-security-deal.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/canada-legalises-marijuana-recreational-weed-cannabis-act-latest-a8407251.html

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20180618IPR06024/copyright-meps-update-rules-for-the-digital-age

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/personalandhouseholdfinances/incomeandwealth/bulletins/theeffectsoftaxesandbenefitsonhouseholdincome/financialyearending2017

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