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‘Never Trump' John Ziegler Claims Hillary’s Better

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Channel: Jesse Lee Peterson · 2016 · News & Politics

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FOLLOW-UP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj7TBVwowL0 http://jlptalk.com Documentary filmmaker and radio host John Ziegler (http://JohnandLeahRadio.com) debates Jesse and callers about Donald Trump. He's a "Never Trump" guy, because he believes Trump's not qualified, not conservative or Republican, and has no chance against Hillary. He says he wrote a piece about why Romney lost the day before the election. He says there's no path for Trump to get 270 votes in the electoral college, unless the polls are catastrophically wrong on an unprecedented level. Jesse says people are afraid to say they support Trump, and said Reagan turned things around (but John says Reagan's debate did it in 1980, in the dark-ages of polling, and we're a different country now). He does not believe in any "silent majority" for Trump, although Jesse says he runs into it in the black community all the time. He liked WI Gov. Scott Walker at first and FL Sen. Marco Rubio, but he felt talk radio, Fox News Channel, and Matt Drudge abandoned them for Trump. But Jesse calls Rubio a weak man and a RINO, a phony who supported amnesty. Ziegler claims Trump was for no borders internationally on CNN in 2013, and is a fraud and a con-man, and said in 2012 that he's doesn't believe in deportation, but continued to speak over Jesse. Jesse says, we know that Rubio is not going to put a wall on the borders. Jesse asks how he knows Trump is "not" going to put a wall on the border. John says "sure" he'd like a wall "magically" on the border. Jesse asks if John's given up on the country, but he thinks we can get the country back. Jesse asks if John's glad that Trump exposed the RINO, fake, pretense Republicans who are willing to let Hillary, the media and Democrats stop Trump. Democrats support one another, but Republicans turn on one another -- the establishment turned on Trump. John called Trump a "liar," a "liberal con-man," a "sexual predator," and "not a good human being." He said that Trump waxed poetic about Hillary even after Benghazi. A caller attacked John, saying that Trump is much more Republican than the RINO establishment who have been backstabbing us for decades, who know he's telling the truth. Another caller asked if he voted for Bush or the other Republican nominees -- but says George Bush was more conservative than John Kerry or Al Gore, even though he was pretty liberal. At the end, Jesse asks who's a better person, Trump or Hillary? John says Hillary's the worst person humans can put forward, but he considers Trump an alien, and so worse than Hillary by a small margin. Jesse tells him not to let his wife hear him talking that way. Jesse will talk to John again after the election.  

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