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Swalwell: This President is evil & likes seeing kids suffer....

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Channel: POTUS Trump MAGA · 2018 · News & Politics

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CAVUTO: 
.. not much has been said about kids who were separated and, you know, put in detention centers during the Obama administration.

I know how it works. And maybe some people feel it's not as -- it's much more heinous now than it was back then.

But do you think, in your heart of hearts, that Republicans are this evil, this callous on this issue that they would actually like to see kids suffer, that they enjoy that?

SWALWELL: I think this president is, Neil. I don't think most of any colleagues are. They were...

CAVUTO: You think this president welcomes seeing kids suffer?

SWALWELL: I hate to say it, Neil. This president is a cruel, cruel person. And I think he made this decision. And he allowed it to happen.

CAVUTO: All right, so he's a father and a grandfather. Think that through. And then he would welcome seeing kids crying and screaming.

And, by the way, an astute politician who would probably see ahead of time the outcry that would be produced doing something like this, you really think that he would do that?

SWALWELL: He never showed empathy one time throughout this process. All he said was that it was unpopular.

CAVUTO: So when you demand he take a pen and do something about this to change that, and he did, he's cursed for doing something and not doing something.

SWALWELL: Well, he created the fire, and now he wants credit for calling in the fire department. I don't think it works that way.

CAVUTO: Well, because he responded to the pressure that you and others put on him, and maybe for good reason.

But I just think find it a little extreme. And you wouldn't like it if it was said of you to say that you would welcome seeing screaming, crying kids, because, all of a sudden, you're Scrooge.

SWALWELL: You know, Neil, I think it was Maya Angelou who said, when somebody shows you who they are, believe them.

And when he announced his campaign, he said that many immigrants coming to our country were rapists and murderers. And so, from the very beginning, that's how he has viewed these individuals.

CAVUTO: But wait a minute. When you said that they were going to all of a sudden put something together, and you would be pleased with it, and he did what you said, it doesn't make sense, right? I don't know.

SWALWELL: No, Neil, he did what he should have done. He never should have allowed this to happen.

CAVUTO: I know. But you told him to do it. He said he wouldn't do it. 
He said he wouldn't do it.

SWALWELL: Yes.

CAVUTO: And, then, all of a sudden, whether it's the pressures coming from his wife, Melania, or a lot of Democrats or those in his own party, he heard a lot.

SWALWELL: Yes.

CAVUTO: And this president doesn't bend on much. That was a big bending. That was a big pivot. That was a big reversal.

SWALWELL: It was unpopular.

And the guy cares about ratings more than anything else, Neil. I don't think it came from his heart.

CAVUTO: But you see what I'm saying? You're not giving any remote benefit of the doubt here.

SWALWELL: He doesn't deserve benefit, though, Neil. He cruelly put these kids in cages.

CAVUTO: I know how you feel about him. I know how you feel about him.

SWALWELL: Yes.

CAVUTO: And I -- believe me, I'm neither an apologist or a critic. I have raised, I think, a fair and balanced view of the man.

SWALWELL: You have to ask the question. I get it. Yes.

CAVUTO: But, listen, what you're saying is, this guy is evil and he hates kids and he wants to see them suffer.

You are a very smart congressman. You are an astute politician. There's no way in hell you can really believe that.

SWALWELL: I do, because it came out of his own mouth. He said that they were murderers and rapists.

CAVUTO: No, he said, I hate kids, I really want to see them suffer?

SWALWELL: He said that they were...

CAVUTO: He referred to these kids and murderers and rapists?

SWALWELL: He called many of them -- and he has turned this...

CAVUTO: No, no, no, no. No, Congressman, I tell you, I keep track of everything he says, and I keep a list of it, actually.

And he never called these kids murderers and rapists.

SWALWELL: Do you think he's a compassionate, caring person, Neil?

CAVUTO: Well, I don't think he's saying that these are all murderers and rapists.

I don't. Do I think he can be clumsy with words? Absolutely. Do I think you sometimes can be clumsy with words? Absolutely.

Do I think I sometimes can be clumsy with words? Absolutely.

But I think that, in order to facilitate a debate, and when your party and others are categorizing the president this way -- and, by the way, he's not exactly been Saint Francis, responding in kind -- we're never going to get anything done on this issue, Congressman.

SWALWELL: Neil, I think he's a cruel, cold con artist who only changed the policy because people, Republicans and Democrats, spoke up.
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