Marriage as the Path: Sacred Dance, Kundalini & Awakening | Brad & Pam Keene | BatGap Interview
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Channel: Buddha at the Gas Pump® · 2011 · People & Blogs
While watching this interview, feel free to pause and engage one-on-one with the BatGapBot - https://batgap.com/batgap-spiritual-ai-bot/. This interactive companion is here to answer your questions and go deeper into the topics, offering insights and personalized dialogue along the way. Also see http://batgap.com/brad-pam-keene/ Brad and Pam Keene live in Fairfield, Iowa, where they have built a shared spiritual life centered on their marriage of ten years. Pam has been a conscious seeker since the age of nineteen, drawing from a wide range of teachers and traditions. Brad was a practitioner of Transcendental Meditation for twenty-five years before stepping away in 1995. What followed was a turbulent period that ultimately gave way to a profound shift — one he describes not as an exalted state, but as something far simpler, more natural, and more intimate than he had ever expected. His core counsel to fellow seekers: lower your expectations. In this conversation with Rick Archer, Brad and Pam explore what it means to use a sacred marriage as a spiritual path. Brad describes leaving formal practice behind and discovering that his daily life and his relationship with Pam had become his program. He considers her his guru, and it is her influence that has drawn him toward devotion to a personal God — what they describe as a personal Other that is Divine, beyond the impersonal silence that marks earlier stages of awakening. Pam's own story is vivid. Her awakening came in December 2005, mid-dance, as a simultaneous implosion and explosion in the heart. A period of integration followed — what she calls her Alice in Wonderland phase — where she moved between feeling infinite and infinitesimal until the opposites were reconciled in the wholeness of Self. Her Kundalini completion arrived during a moment of intimacy with Brad, experienced as a coherent beam of light rising to the crown chakra, accompanied by visions of galaxies within her own being. Together, Brad and Pam have developed Sharanalila, a form of sacred dance combining Sharana, the Sanskrit word for surrender, with Lila, meaning divine play. They speak openly about monogamy, sacred sexuality, and the path of radical surrender as a living, embodied practice. Pam's personal faith in a personal God, rooted in her childhood love of Jesus, serves as a counterpoint to the purely impersonal framings common in their Fairfield, Iowa community. This episode is part of the Buddha at the Gas Pump interview series featuring ordinary people undergoing extraordinary inner transformation. Interview recorded February 10, 2010. 00:00:00 - Buddha at the Gas Pump Introduction 00:04:32 - Pam and Brad's Awakening Journey 00:08:54 - Letting go of Transcendental Meditation 00:12:43 - Alcohol, Drugs, and Awakening Journey 00:16:44 - Honeymoon period and drinking/drugs 00:20:19 - The Importance of a Guru in Spiritual Growth 00:23:21 - Dana's Spiritual Journey 00:27:29 - The Power of Desire and Individual Paths 00:30:36 - The Awakening Process and Embracing a Personal God 00:33:35 - The Progression of Awakening 00:36:07 - The Rheostat of Belief 00:39:11 - Holding all Expressions of the Divine in the Heart 00:42:53 - Reconciliation of Opposites in the Wholeness of Self 00:45:59 - The Awakening through Dance 00:48:47 - Kundalini Complete 00:52:11 - The Power of Sexual Experience and Spiritual Practice 00:54:58 - Exploring Different Varieties of Spiritual Practice 00:57:43 - The Experience of Universal Awareness 00:59:44 - Wholeness in the Midst of a Heart Attack 01:01:21 - Near-Death Experience and Divine Awareness 01:03:22 - Reflections on Death and Fear 01:05:38 - Pam's Journey with Dance 01:07:57 - The Healing Power of Dance 01:11:25 - The Evolution of Dance Groups 01:14:13 - Couples and the Mission of Enlightenment 01:17:04 - Sharanalila: The Surrendering Dance 01:19:30 - Contact Information for More Information on Sharanalila 01:21:52 - The Sacred Dance Journey 01:24:35 - Leaving People with Openness to Awakening 01:27:52 - The Misconception of Levitation 01:31:04 - Conclusion and Thank You
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