Pascal's Wager Pt.3
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Channel: Jackies1979 · 2007 · People & Blogs
addendum: (why can I not comment on my own videos so that everyone sees the comment?) Jackies1979 (17 minutes ago) Show Hide Marked as spam (Reply) (Remove) (Block User) (Spam) but many of the other bloggers suggest that if you don't believe and god exists, you go to hell, so your matrix is wrong.... Jackies1979 (13 minutes ago) Show Hide Marked as spam (Reply) (Remove) (Block User) (Spam) yes, Jackies1979, this is very true, but here I criticize the original version of Pascal's Wager which suggests none other than this matrix (also with giving up (well, at least part of) your life if you believe...)... in the version with hell, I don't know how to argue against it currently Jackies1979 (10 minutes ago) Show Hide Marked as spam (Reply) (Remove) (Block User) (Spam) given that you equate hell with a negative infinity of lives... maybe argue against possibility or depravity of hell which may be question-begging... don't know.... maybe I still want to have hell, if I absolutely want to "sin" on earth, and I can do that neither in hell or heaven, so must do it here :-)).... no idea You are all wrong.... Here I refute the validity of the argument that, because believing in god promises good payoffs, you should (at least: pretend to) believe in God, and I show that the popular counterarguments against Pascal's Wager (as the argument is called) are flawed... There are four parts... ok, I should make my reservations as for the regular counterarguments a bit clearer as I fear they are rather obscurely formulated orally in the vid...: doxastic voluntarism/only an argument for pretending to believe: what if that suffices and God is keen on having hypocritical followers -- this is after all a logical possibility supported also by how god is presented in the Abrahamic religions as cruel, jealous etc... religious hucksterism: again, if god likes that, what would you like to do given you cannot change that? many religions/why not believe instead in Zeus or...: the argument still runs through: for "if God exists" simply put "if *your* god exists (as the only true, rewarding God he's supposed to be in your religion)", then if all alleged Gods are also alleged to reward you with an eternal afterlife, then the argument is still standing in the way it would if there were only one religion apart from disbelief!!! Grant (as you should even as an atheist) that any God's existence has a probability of non-zero and grant ex hypothesi that any God will, if he exists, reward you with an infinite afterlife, then pretending to believe in any God will -- given his cruelty, jealousy, wickedness etc... -- promise a better payoff than not (at least pretend to) believe.